Member of Congress

Peter Fitzgerald

Role
Former Senator
State
IL
Party
Republican

Speeches

CHANGE OF VOTE2003-06-10

Mr. FITZGERALD

Mr. FITZGERALD. Madam President, I ask Senator Feinstein if it is true that under the current law no one can do anything about these wash trades because of this Enron loophole that is in the law. We are trying to take that out, so somebody could actually ban this kind of fraudulent trading practice. Isn't that correct?

Mr. FITZGERALD. I ask Senator Feinstein, I was wondering, you said one company said 80 percent of its trades had been wash trades, just round trip trades. Was that an energy firm?

Mr. FITZGERALD. Will the Senator yield for a question?

Mr. FITZGERALD. Does the Senator know why people would oppose the authority of regulators to ban wash trades? Has anybody explained that to the Senator?

Mr. FITZGERALD. So you are saying the FERC has done a study in which they have already concluded that we basically need to close this loophole so there can be some price discovery and some monitoring of these energy markets?

Mr. FITZGERALD. That was probably a huge percentage of their revenues--all fictitious--from doing wash trades on an online exchange with no economic purpose. But that fictitious revenue was fooling the investing public, making people think that company had more revenue than it actually did. They were all just ``wash'' trades.

Mr. FITZGERALD. There really is a difference between this year's vote and last year's. Last year when the Senator and I had this amendment on the floor, it was in the immediate aftermath of all those energy companies collapsing. There were some initial reports out there about possibly bogus trades but we didn't have that proof yet. We had 48 votes, 2 votes shy of passing it. Since that time, and in the intervening year, we have had all the hard evidence come out proving everything the Senator and I were saying last year on the floor of this body--that there were, in fact, bogus wash trades not only in the millions of dollars but in the billions of dollars. How big were some of those?

Mr. FITZGERALD. It seems to me that this is an absolute no-brainer to close this indefensible loophole. I can't imagine that anybody is going to want to defend the concept that we can have an online exchange that is open for business with the public, although not retail customers, I gather, but institutional customers, where it is just a black hole which no one can regulate and can't ban wash trades where there is no price discovery. What in the world would be the objection to closing this loophole and having some modicum of oversight to protect the people who may want to use this exchange and to protect the integrity of the market?

Mr. FITZGERALD. If someone is operating a corrupt exchange and there is no price discovery and no regulation, isn't it true that a customer could call into that exchange and say, I want to trade oil at $30 a barrel, and the broker could tell them he could get some oil at $35 a barrel and just require the customer to pay more than that customer really should have had to pay because the market wasn't that high, there is no way for the customer to know what the real market price is? The broker could make up a price and then keep the difference for himself or for the exchange. Isn't that correct, if there is no price discovery?

Mr. FITZGERALD. If we had the same problem somewhere in the stock market and people couldn't figure out the price of a stock by looking in the newspaper or looking on the Internet to see what the published price of a stock was on the exchange, if instead you had a similar situation with a stock as you have with these online energy derivatives exchanges, and a customer had to call the exchange and ask what the price of oil is trading at, but you just had somebody telling you the price of oil is such and such but you had no way of verifying that, I think no one would want to invest in the stock market if you couldn't discover the price, or if there was no price discovery. Why does the Senator think anybody would even want to trade on an online exchange in which there is no price discovery, or where there is no regulator protecting the customers from fraud, manipulation, or abuse? Why is it that someone would even want to trade on such an exchange? Isn't it true that, in fact, the InterContinental Exchange volume, the last I heard, was dropping and their legitimate customers were going back to trading on a fully regulated exchange in New York, the NYNEX?

Mr. FITZGERALD. Because they were simply trading back and forth amongst themselves at a price that really was not determined on an arms' length basis. They were just engaging in bogus trades back and forth to artificially set a price or to artificially increase revenues for the companies on both sides of the trade. Some of these transactions were done on the InterContinental Exchange. As I recall, when we had the hearing before the Senate Agriculture Committee, either early this winter or maybe even last fall, some shareholder on the InterContinental Exchange came before the committee and testified that notwithstanding the official position of the exchange they, as an owner of the exchange, disagreed with the policy of the InterContinental Exchange on this, and they favored our elimination of this Enron online loophole in the commodities laws; they thought that the company in which they were a shareholder would be better off if there were some regulation of their business. Does the Senator recall that?

Mr. FITZGERALD. They do not do these wash trades at the exchange in New York because all of that would be transparent to the public.

Mr. FITZGERALD. And no one can find out what prices they were trading at, either. There is no price discovered.

Mr. FITZGERALD. Madam President, I rise today to support my colleague from California, Senator Feinstein, and her amendment, which I have cosponsored, which would very simply close the so-called Enron loophole in the commodity futures trading laws of this country. This really is not that complex an issue. A few years ago, we passed a reauthorization of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. I am very familiar with the commodities industry because we are the heart of it in my State of Illinois, particularly the city of Chicago, where they have the largest derivative exchanges in the country in the Board of Trade, in the Mercantile Exchange in Chicago. Those exchanges trade all sorts of commodities from pork bellies to Treasury bonds. They trade financial commodities as well as agricultural commodities, corn and soybeans. The Board of Trade and the Mercantile Exchange, like the NYMEX, the New York Mercantile Exchange in New York, or the New York Board of Trade, are fully regulated exchanges. The reauthorization of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which we passed a few years ago, continued that regulation that we have had in this country over our boards of trades and our other derivatives or futures transaction trading facilities in this country. Somehow, when we were working on that legislation in the House and the Senate--it is funny how little codicils, little paragraphs and sentences get added when the bills go to conference committees between the House and the Senate. I believe what happened is when that bill was over in the House, a couple of congressmen added some language that exempted from all regulation by the CFTC--and there is no regulation by the SEC in this area--online facilities that trade energy, metals, and broadband derivatives contracts or futures contracts. Online exchanges that trade those kinds of contracts are completely exempt from regulation. This is the so-called Enron loophole. At the time, Enron owned EnronOnline and they had an online platform for trading energy contracts, which when Enron went bankrupt later they sold. Now that EnronOnline was totally exempted from regulation--as Senator Feinstein very eloquently and very thoroughly described for us all of the bogus trades that were done on online derivative exchanges that trade metals and energy contracts, and she described the wash trades that were discovered when Enron fell apart. In fact, many energy companies were simply engaging in round trip trades with trading partners. A round trip trade, as Senator Feinstein noted, is when one party sells a commodity to another party at a certain price, and the other party sells that same commodity back at the very same price. Nothing really transpired in that transaction except that the other party books revenue from a sale and this party books revenue from a sale, but nothing really happened from an economic point of view. If party A sells a barrel of oil to party B for $30, and party B simultaneously sells a barrel of oil back to party A for $30, nothing has really happened. Everybody is still the same. What we saw in the energy industry with a whole bunch of energy companies, not just Enron, is they were artificially boosting their revenues by engaging in wash trades, round trip trades with other energy partners. I recall one energy company after this came to light had to restate its revenues downward by $7 billion when new auditors came in and made them cancel out all these wash trades. Senator Feinstein's amendment simply closes this Enron loophole. It says the CFTC will be able to ban wash trades on these online derivatives transaction facilities. That is all we are trying to do. She does not impose full-scale regulation by the CFTC like we have at the Board of Trade or Mercantile Exchange in Illinois or the New York Mercantile Exchange in New York. They have far more regulation. However, we will put a light level of regulation on online derivative transactions facilities that trade energy, metals, and broadband online. Do not forget, Enron was a big trader of broadband, as well. In fact, that is why the Enron loophole as it got written in the House created a special carve-out for energy, metals, broadband, and also weather contracts. The question is--why are we picking out energy, metal, broadband, and weather contracts and saying these contracts when traded online cannot be regulated by anyone? What is the public policy rationale for this special carve-out? Why didn't they also include corn and soybeans in this carve-out? Or other commodities? The fact is, this was a special interest carve-out for a hand full of companies. Now, there is a company owned by a number of banks and energy companies called the InterContinental Exchange. I believe it is opposed to our amendment. Why they are opposed--I gather some of their owners are, in fact, for this--but the majority of the owners of this exchange are opposed. They do not want to be regulated. Our obligation is not to those banks that own the InterContinental Exchange or to the energy companies that own the InterContinental Exchange. Our obligations here are to investors around the country and to consumers around the country. We saw what kind of wool can be pulled over people's eyes when online exchanges are allowed to go on without any regulation. Not only were a bunch of energy companies such as Enron doing round-trip trades to artificially boost their own revenues but they were also doing fictitious round-trip trades to set artificial prices. Indeed, although I was very skeptical at first whether that was happening in California but, in fact, it was. The online exchanges would tell California that this is the price that has been trading on our online exchange, so that is the price you have to pay for the energy. But, in fact, it was a fictitious market and most of the trades were fictitious and no one could regulate it. All we are trying to do is have a light level of regulation to ban wash trades, round-trip trades, ban fraud and abuse, and protect consumers and investors, have some price discovery so people can know what the prices are for the commodities that are traded on these online exchanges, a very light level of regulation to protect the integrity of our derivatives market. My good friend and colleague from the State of Nevada, the senior Senator from Nevada, Mr. Reid, has proposed exempting metals contracts from the amendment Senator Feinstein and I have put together. In other words, he would go along with closing the Enron loophole with respect to energy and broadband but he wants to keep a carve-out for metals. I don't think that is a good idea. We should not have to wait until we have fraudulent transactions involving a metals contract, say, of gold, silver, or platinum, before we act. We have already had fraudulent transactions in energy markets on the online exchanges and we need to stop that. But certainly we can foresee the same problem could occur in an online contract of metals that is traded on one of these online exchanges. All commodities of which there is a finite supply should be treated equally. We should not have a special carve-out either for energy or for metals or for broadband. In 1999, a working group was put together on the financial markets and the working group was put together ahead of our rewrite of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. The panel comprised in the working group was made up of Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, the Treasury Secretary, the Chairman of the SEC, and the Chairman of the CFTC at the time. In their report, the President's Working Group on Financial Markets, as it was called, that group concluded: Due to the characteristics of markets for nonfinancial commodities with finite supplies [energy, metals broadband all fit that category; they are nonfinancial commodities and there are finite supplies of energy and of metals] the working group is unanimously recommending that the exclusion not be extended to agreements involving such commodities. The exclusion should not extend to any swap agreement that involves a nonfinancial commodity with a finite supply. In other words, the President's working group was saying there should be oversight, there should be regulation of swap agreements, of futures contracts, of derivatives contracts, involving nonfinancial commodities with finite supplies. They separated that category of commodities from financial commodities that have an infinite supply, say, interest rates futures, or futures contracts or derivative contracts based on currencies. With those types of financial commodities, it is very difficult for someone to corner the market in interest rates, for example. I don't think it is possible. There is not a finite supply of interest rates. No one could corner the market there. So they wanted to provide legal certainty for derivatives involving financial commodities with infinite supplies and they have done that. We did not touch financial derivatives. We allow that legal certainty to remain for the financial commodities. We do not upset that. Instead, we simply treat energy, metals, and broadband, as the other finite commodities such as corn and soybeans and other agricultural commodities are treated. The President's working group made this recommendation that all nonfinancial commodities with finite supplies be treated the same. I have to ask my colleagues, what possible public policy rationale could explain the carve-out in the commodity futures reauthorization bill for energy and metals transactions? If it is proper to exempt these finite physical commodities from CFTC regulation, why not exempt agricultural commodities such as corn, soybeans, and pork bellies? It does not make any sense and we should close this loophole. Some have argued that we shouldn't have regulation in this area. I know, particularly on my side of the aisle, there are a lot of conservative Republicans, and I am certainly a conservative Republican, and very pro-free markets. I am always reluctant to see Government regulation and I always question the need for it. However, I point out that a light level of Government regulation can actually be healthy in promoting markets. There is no finer example than our security markets in the United States. Prior to the adoption of the Securities and Exchange Commission Act in the early 1930s, average people remained very leery of ever investing in the stock market. They thought it was a fool's game that was rigged for the insiders on Wall Street and it was very risky. In fact, by regulating the securities markets and making it safe for average people to invest in the markets by having some laws against the insider dealing and so forth, and requiring a thorough dissemination of information so it could be widely shared, we have gotten to the point where over 50 percent of Americans in this country invest in the stock market. I point to that example as an area where we have pretty light regulations in our security laws. They are simply disclosure laws. Publicly traded companies have to file disclosure and there is not much more regulation than that, but that disclosure is very important in maintaining the integrity of our markets. I believe Senator Feinstein and I have an amendment that is very light regulation, that simply will help restore the faith of people who may want to trade, of institutions that may want to trade in an online derivatives facility. It will restore their faith in that market, give them more trust in that market and make them more likely to use that market. Since we have had this scandal in the energy industry, the InterContinental Exchange's volume has just plummeted and people who wanted to hedge their positions in energy and metals have been flocking back to the fully regulated exchange in New York, the New York Mercantile Exchange. So the point here, the moral of this story, I think, is by opposing this regulation, the InterContinental Exchange has, in fact, hurt their own cause because people are staying away from their market. They do not trust it, they know there is no price discovery, they know there is no regulator there who is going to prevent them from being defrauded. There is no cop there so nobody wants to trade there. So if the InterContinental Exchange and the banks that own it want to encourage all the Senators here to vote against this, I think they are actually working against their own self-interest in the long run, just as Wall Street would have been working against its own self-interest back in the 1930s if they had come to Washington and tried to block the implementation of the Securities Exchange Commission Act. All the bill does, and Senator Feinstein has gone through it very thoroughly--but specifically it requires reporting, notification, and recordkeeping. In addition, it requires these energy and metal trading venues to keep books and records and maintain sufficient capital to operate soundly. Those are just commonsense requirements. Why anybody would be against this, I don't know. Finally, on a somewhat more parochial basis, as someone who represents the exchanges in Chicago, the Board of Trade and the Mercantile Exchange, they have a much heavier degree of regulation than we are asking of these online exchanges that trade in energy and metals. I, frankly, think it is unfair to impose super-regulations on one type of trading facility and then no regulation at all on another type of facility. I think that unfairness in the disparate treatment between different derivatives transaction facilities is a disparity and disparate treatment that should be eliminated in the name of fairness. The bottom line is, while there has been a lot of hype surrounding this issue, I think those who study it closely will realize, will recognize it is good public policy. It is in the public's interest. I urge my colleagues to support this amendment. It is very well drafted. Senator Lugar and Senator Harkin have both signed on as cosponsors. It was the subject of a hearing in the Agriculture Committee, as Senator Feinstein pointed out, and the Agriculture Committee, of course, is where legislation dealing with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission goes. The Agriculture Committee has worked on this, and they produced very good legislation that will prevent, if we adopt it, the kind of abuses we have seen in online derivatives transactions in the last couple of years. It is a commonsense amendment. It simply will make it easier to act against fraudulent or bogus energy or metals or broadband trades. It is common sense. I urge my colleagues to adopt it. Unless anyone further wishes to talk, I suggest the absence of a quorum.

Mr. FITZGERALD. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.

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AUTHORITY FOR COMMITTEES TO MEET2003-06-10

Mr. FITZGERALD

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Subcommittee on Fisheries, Wildlife, and Water be authorized to meet on Tuesday, June 10 at 10 a.m., to conduct a hearing to receive testimony regarding the current regulatory and legal status of federal jurisdiction of navigable waters under the Clean Water Act, in light of the issues raised by the Supreme Court in Solid Waste Agency of Northern Cook County v. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers No. 99-1178. The hearing will take place in Senate Dirksen 406.

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation be authorized to meet on Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 9:30 a.m., on Reauthorization of the Federal Motor Carrier Administration.

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs be authorized to meet during the session of the Senate on June 10, 2003, at 10:00 a.m. to conduct an oversight hearing on ``The Administration's Proposal for Re- authorization of The Federal Public Transportation Program.''

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Committee on Armed Services be authorized to meet during the session of the Senate on Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 9:30 a.m., in closed session to receive testimony on certain intelligence programs.

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ANIMAL DRUG USER FEE ACT OF 20032003-06-03

Mr. FITZGERALD

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that action on S. 313 be vitiated and the Senate proceed to its immediate consideration; that the committee amendments be withdrawn, and that the amendment that is at the desk be agreed to, and the bill, as amended, be read a third time and passed.

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MEASURE READ THE FIRST TIME--S. 11742003-06-03

Mr. FITZGERALD

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I now ask for its second reading and object to further proceedings on this matter.

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I understand that S. 1174 is at the desk, and I ask for its first reading.

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EXECUTIVE CALENDAR (Executive Session)2003-06-03

Mr. FITZGERALD

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate immediately proceed to executive session to consider the following nominations on today's Executive Calendar: Calendar Nos. 186, 187, and 188. I further ask unanimous consent that the nominations be confirmed en bloc, the motions to reconsider be laid upon the table, the President be immediately notified of the Senate's action, and that the Senate then return to legislative session.

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ADJOURNMENT UNTIL 9:30 A.M. TOMORROW2003-06-03

Mr. FITZGERALD

Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. President, if there is no further business to come before the Senate, I ask unanimous consent the Senate stand in adjournment under the previous order.

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PROGRAM2003-06-03

Mr. FITZGERALD

Mr. FITZGERALD. For the information of all Senators, following morning business tomorrow, the Senate may resume consideration of S. 14, the Energy Bill. The Senate made progress today on the ethanol issue, and it is hoped that the Senate can complete action on that issue during Wednesday's session. Tomorrow the Senate may also consider the House Defense authorization bill under the consent order entered earlier. In addition, discussions are under way as to a process for consideration of the child tax credit legislation. This evening, Senator Grassley introduced that legislation and began the process of placing that bill on the calendar. Negotiations will continue as to the best way to address that issue. We are also working to clear additional nominations during tomorrow's session. Therefore, Members should expect votes throughout the day, and Senators will be notified when the first vote is scheduled.

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