Member of Congress
Larry Pressler
- Role
- Former Senator
- State
- SD
- Party
- Republican
Speeches
THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPETITION AND DEREGULATION ACT1995-06-08
Mr. PRESSLER
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I must rise in opposition to this amendment. But I do want to praise Senator Cohen, Senator Snowe, and others who have worked on this, and who have done a good job of trying to find a solution. I know that the intention of the amendment is to permit unbundling of cable boxes so that vendors other than cable companies can offer them. While it is a good concept, the amendment is faulty. Consumers should be able to obtain their set top boxes from vendors other than their cable provider. However, urging the FCC to step in to find a solution may not be the right way to proceed. This amendment is drafted in such a way that I cannot imagine the FCC reacting in any other way but to try to issue standards governing set top boxes. Standards should be set by industry. And, I understand that there has been difficulty in getting cooperation from industry in establishing standards. A uniform standard would make it easy for vendors and manufacturers who wish to get into the business. However, there is no uniform standard among the nation's cable operators. Cable is going to have to change. Competition will force change. DBS has licensed several satellite dish providers, and the cost of DBS will continue to decline. The percentage of DBS will increase, and cable will have to compete to keep its customers. There simply is no need for Congress to mandate further FCC studies or regulations on the subject of set-top boxes. The proposed amendment on set-top boxes is not sound for a number of reasons, including: The retail sale of cable descramblers could increase cable theft; increased cable theft will raise costs for cable systems and customers; widespread cable theft will surely discourage increased investment in cable programming and cable distribution facilities. The proposed amendment is premised on the following four myths: Myth 1: Cable boxes are no longer necessary to secure video programming. Myth 2: The use of new digital technologies with replaceable ``smart cards'' will solve cable's security concerns. Myth 3: Cable boxes are like telephones. Myth 4: Retail availability of cable boxes will reduce prices to consumers. Decoder boxes in homes are the only viable form of security for video service. While there are other ways to secure a program service, all of the known techniques have problems that make them useful only in limited circumstances. For example, negative traps cannot be used with multiple pay services without interfering with the signal quality of other programs delivered. Interdiction technology is costly and not totally reliable. Since cable theft raises the cost of doing business for cable systems and, ultimately, cable consumers, product security is essential to the economic well-being of cable operators, cable consumers, and program networks. In addition, product security is vital for continued investment in cable programming and cable distribution systems. Theft of cable service is a multi-billion dollar problem today. The retail sale of cable descramblers and would increase cable signal theft significantly. A person with a desire to modify cable boxes would be able to purchase any number of them at retail, modify them to illegally receive encrypted services, and then resell them to others at whatever cost the market would bear. Signals protected by digital techniques are not immune to attack. The security of other television services that have depended on digital techniques and smart cards have been quickly compromised. Indeed, such security systems used by program providers in Europe were broken within months of their deployment. Proponents of set-top box legislation argue that even if system security is breached, the smart card can be changed. The problem for both consumers and cable operators is the expense of such a scheme: Smart cards cost $30-$40 apiece. Sending out new cards to all customers every time signal security is breached would become a prohibitive recurring cost. Telephone architecture and cable architecture are radically different. The telephone instrument itself does not grant consumers access to the services being sold by the telephone company. The telephone set is merely the instrument that consumers need to use the network. Access to telephone services is provided by a line that connects consumers to the telephone company's central office. In order to prevent consumers from using a service, such as dial tone, the telephone industry physically disconnects the consumer's wire at the central office. Consumers cannot steal the service. Cable companies, however, must protect their services at the consumer's home, since the signals of all program services are present at all times in the cable system's distribution system. Cable operators scramble or encrypt program signals to prevent their unauthorized reception. Access to the encrypted product which is present in every home is given only to consumers who have purchased it by providing a set-top box containing the appropriate descrambling circuitry. Even telephone companies entering the video-delivery business have recognized that the most efficient way to deliver a video to consumers is to replicate cable television architecture, and they are deploying that approach in their new distribution networks. Current law requires cable operators to provide decoders and descramblers to consumers at cost. S. 652 does not change existing law. The retail cost of a descrambler is 10 times higher than the annual rental fee consumers now pay. Cable companies deploy new set-top technology every 5 to 7 years. This obsolescence cost is far less for a consumer paying an annual rental fee based on actual cost than for consumers at retail. Cable companies utilize different scrambling technologies from market to market, requiring cable boxes to be franchise specific. Consumers moving from one franchise area to another pay far less by renting their set-top equipment than by purchasing new boxes at retail. For all the reasons I have mentioned, we do not need to place yet another requirement on this industry, particularly one which harms both paying customers and cable operators. Therefore, I oppose the amendment.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I wonder if the Senator from Maine would allow us, within the unanimous consent agreement, to go to the managers' amendment that we have worked out and we wish to have agreed to. We are not going to change anything here. This will take about 5 minutes at the most.
Mr. PRESSLER. For the information of everybody, we will stick with the 7:30 vote. There is no change. There are more amendments to this and other speakers are welcome to come to the floor.
Mr. PRESSLER. Yes. It will take no more than 5 minutes.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to set aside the Cohen amendment for no more than 5 minutes.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I call for the regular order with respect to amendment No. 1258. This is a modification of the managers' amendment. I send to the desk a modification of our amendment, the amendment of Senator Hollings and I, and ask the amendment be modified accordingly.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, these modifications represent minor and technical changes in the public utility company provisions, preserve current law regarding the sunset provision of section 628 of the Communications Act of 1934, and extend the period for certain market opportunity determinations from 120 days to 180 days. Mr. President, following the remarks of my colleague, I urge the adoption of the amendment.
Mr. PRESSLER. I move to lay that motion on the table. The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the amendments included in the managers' amendment be treated as original text for purposes of further amendment during the consideration of the bill.
Mr. PRESSLER. No. The amendment is intended, to allow the FCC to modify those provisions of the MFJ that this legislation would not modify or supersede.
Mr. PRESSLER. The answer to each of those questions is ``no''. The deletion of this sentence is intended to clarify that the carriers of broadcast and cable services are not intended to be classified as common carriers under the Communication Act to the extent they provide broadcast services or cable services. Amendment No. 1263
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I now move to go back to the Cohen amendment. I say to Senators, a vote has been set for 7:30. Any Senators wishing to speak on this amendment or on the bill, I invite them to the floor, if that is agreeable with the Senator from Maine. I do have some closing, about 5 minutes of closing remarks on the Cohen amendment, but I will hold those over for a bit. Mr. FORD addressed the Chair.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I yield as much time as the Senator from Kentucky wishes.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I think the goal of the Senator from Maine is very laudable, and I also believe we have to jog a little the cable industry to set a standard because they have been very slow to do so. I think the cable industry needs to get the message that we want better action from them in setting the standards. But when I get to boiling down to my concern about this amendment, it is that it says, ``The commission shall, after notice and opportunity for public comment, adopt regulations to ensure the competitive availability of * * * convertible boxes, subscribers, and services of multi-channel video programs and distributors from manufacturers,'' et cetera. The part that worries me is that the ``commission shall adopt regulations.'' I am concerned that this might lock technology in. I fear it may be likely that the industry will not adopt a common standard in a timely fashion, thus involving potential standard setting by the FCC. The standards created by a Government entity may result in technology being locked in place which could result in stifling innovation. If the computer industry had been subject to a similar legislative mandate when interoperability was a real problem for early users of personal computers, I doubt our industry would be as competitive as it is today. After all, what is the top box but a small computer. If we have a standard developed by the FCC for these boxes, I think we will not have the future improvements and innovations that could occur if we simply leave the standard setting to the industry. I cite the innovations that we have had in computers where there has not been a standard set by Government and innovation has gone forward very quickly. On the other hand, I would jawbone the cable industry very much to set a private standard so there could be more competitors. Mr. President, this concludes my remarks on this particular amendment. I am sure there are other speakers. We have from now until 7:30, depending on Senators coming to the floor, but we are open for opening statements or statements on this or any other part of the bill. I yield the floor.
Mr. PRESSLER. I note the absence of a quorum.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, we have approximately 15 minutes until the next rollcall vote. I believe all speakers have concluded. I urge Senators who wish to make statements on the bill to come to the floor.
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I think we have come to a key part of this debate. As I see it, we are trying to decide whether or not the Department of Justice should have a regulatory role in this whole matter. Under the bill brought to the floor by Senator Hollings and me and others, and by the Commerce Committee, there is a checklist test at the FCC and there is a public interest test at the FCC. There is also required that the Attorney General be consulted. And he might make a recommendation based on the 8(c) test, or he might make a recommendation based on the Clayton Act, or he might make a recommendation on public interest standards. The Justice Department is not supposed to be a regulatory agency. Its duties are in the antitrust area. If we adopt either of these amendments, we are basically continuing to employ about 200 people over at Justice who are regulators and not people who interpret antitrust law. We are making the Department of Justice into a regulatory agency when it is supposed to be [[Page S8006]] dealing with interpretations of antitrust law. What has happened under Judge Greene's order, partially out of necessity, is that the Justice Department began hiring whole legions of people over there to administer the consent decree. For example, the Ameritech waiver has been cited. The Ameritech company in the Chicago area has been, quite rightly, allowed to do some things by the Department of Justice under Judge Greene's consent decree. And quite appropriately, because Congress has not acted. That is one thing about this bill. We are at least trying to get Congress to do this instead of the courts. But if we allow the Justice Department to begin regulating, it will be like in the Ameritech decision. I am not saying the Ameritech decision is wrong, but it shows how the Justice Department likes to use its people as regulators. That Ameritech waiver, the proposed waiver, creates a highly regulatory process under which Ameritech may be able to obtain temporary interLATA authority, but only on a resale basis and only for calls originating from the Illinois portion of the Chicago LATA and the Grand Rapids LATA in Michigan, areas that serve only 1.2 percent of the area's population. But the point is, the chief regulator in this process is the Department of Justice, the same Department that has frequently taken from 3 to 5 years to process waivers under the existing decree. So this means we are probably adding 3 to 5 years of regulation if we adopt the amendment by my friend from North Dakota. This is more Government regulation. This is supposed to be a deregulatory bill. We are supposed to be deregulating here, but we are adding another formal layer of regulation. We have already pointed out that the Ameritech decision is illustrative of the regulatory function of the Department of Justice. And they want to keep these people employed over there. They want to keep on being regulators. They want to be something other than what they are constitutionally created to be. After this bill passes, the Department of Justice will not have to carry out that role. That will save the taxpayers a lot of money; moreover, it will lessen regulation. Indeed, I would like someday to see the FCC substantially reduced. But under this amendment we are not only keeping the FCC using both the checklist and the public interest standard, we are also going a step further and saying after they get through we are going to send it over to Justice and do the same thing all over again with another set of regulators. That will take 3 to 5 years, I do not care how you slice it, because that is the way it has been in the past and that is the way the Department of Justice functions. Anything that goes over there, it will take 3 to 5 years to get a decision out and there is ample evidence to illustrate that. The point I made about Ameritech is that it shows the Department of Justice likes even to write telephone books over there. That is not the business they are supposed to be in. They are in the business of antitrust and the big picture of law. The Dorgan amendment would give the Department a separate, independent clearance in addition to the FCC's clearance for determining whether the Bell operating companies have complied with the checklist for opening their networks to their new competitors. Providing this authority to the Justice Department is unprecedented. The Antitrust Division of the Justice Department has never had decisionmaking authority over regulated industries or any industry. Justice was given a role under the modified final judgment, the consent decree which governed the breakup of AT&T. One of the key reasons for passing telecommunications legislation is once and for all to establish national policy, thus phasing out the MFJ. How is the modified final judgment administered today? The U.S. district court retains jurisdiction over those companies that were party to the MFJ. The court then asked the Justice Department Antitrust Division to assume postdecree duties. The Antitrust Division provides Judge Harold Greene of the district court with recommendations regarding waivers and other matters regarding the administration of the MFJ. Does the Antitrust Division have decision authority over the MFJ? No. The U.S. district court, in the person of Judge Greene, has sole decisionmaking authority over the administration of the MFJ. The Antitrust Division at Justice essentially acts as Judge Greene's staff attorneys. Obviously, those several hundred attorneys in Justice want to keep their jobs, and the Justice Department wants to keep that bureaucracy going. Let us review the kind of job that has been done there by those regulators in the Justice Department. First of all, the Justice Department has not conducted triennial reviews effectively, or every 3 years, as it is supposed to. When the MFJ was instituted, Justice said it would conduct reviews every 3 years, known as the Triennial Review, to make recommendations to the court regarding the continued need for restrictions implemented under the MFJ. The Triennial Reviews were to provide parties to the MFJ with a ``benchmark'' by which to gain relief. Since 1982, only one Triennial Review has been conducted. Waiver requests: Justice is slow--very, very slow. Bell operating companies are required under the MFJ to obtain DOJ review of waiver requests before filing with the district court. In 1984, Justice disposed of 23 waiver requests with the average age of waivers pending at Justice being 2 months. In 1994, Justice disposed of 10 waiver requests with the average age of the 30 waivers pending at DOJ at the end of the year being approximately 30 months. That is, people had to wait 30 months for a decision. Justice review of the waiver requests takes almost as much time for each waiver as the time that was intended to elapse between the Triennial Reviews, which have not been done. One may think that many of these waiver requests must be controversial because they take so long for Justice to make a decision. This is not the case. In fact, the district court has approved about 96 percent of the waiver requests filed before it. So I say we should say no to a coequal Justice role in regulation. The Justice track record in fulfilling its obligations under the MFJ is poor. Why would Congress wish to give the Department an unprecedented role that they do not have under the existing MFJ? S. 652 gives Justice a role but instead of reporting to Judge Greene with its recommendations, the Justice Department would make its recommendations to the FCC, the proper authority. There is no reason why two federal entities should have independent authority over determining whether the very clear congressional policy has been met. the u.s. department of justice should not control bell co. entry into new long distance The U.S. Department of Justice is asking that it be given a ``decisionmaking'' role in the process of reviewing applications for Bell Co. entry into long distance telephone service. A grant of such authority to Justice is unprecedented. It goes far beyond the historical responsibility of Justice, is a significant expansion of the Department's current authority under the MFJ; and raises constitutional questions of due process and separation of powers. First, assigning a decisionmaking role to Justice is unprecedented. The Antitrust Division of the U.S. Department of Justice has one duty: to enforce the antitrust laws, primarily the Sherman and the Clayton Acts. It has never had a decisionmaking role in connection with regulated industries. The Department has always been required to initiate a lawsuit in the event it concluded that the antitrust laws had been violated. It has no power to disapprove transactions or issue orders on its own. While the U.S. district court has used the Department of Justice to review requests for waivers of the MFJ, the Department has no independent decisionmaking authority. That authority remains with the courts. Second, decisionmaking authority should reside in the agency of expertise. [[Page S8007]] In transportation, energy, financial services, and other regulated businesses, Congress has delegated decisionmaking authority for approval of transactions that could have competitive implications with the agency of expertise, and typically has directed the agency to consider factors broader than simply the impact upon competition in making its determinations. This approach has worked well. It contrasts with the role Justice seeks with regard to telephony. Third, assigning a decisionmaking role to Justice establishes a dangerous precedent that could be expanded to other industries. Telecommunications is not the only industrial sector to have a specific group of Justice Department Antitrust Division lawyers devoted to examination of its discrete competitive issues and market structure. The Antitrust Division has a Transportation, Energy and Agriculture Section, a Computers and Finance Section, a Foreign Commerce Section, and a Professions and Intellectual Property Section. The size of the staff devoted to some of these sections is roughly equivalent to that devoted to telecommunications. If the Department has special expertise in telecommunications such that it should be given a decisionmaking role in the regulatory process, does it not also have special expertise in other fields as well? Today's computer, financial services, transportation, energy and telecommunications industries are far too complex, and too important to our nation's economy, to elevate antitrust policy above all other considerations in regulatory decisions. Fourth, the Justice Department proposal raises constitutional questions of due process and separation of powers by failing to define an appeals process or an appropriate standard of review for agency determinations. The Justice Department, in requesting a decisionmaking role in reviewing Bell Co. applications for entry into long distance telephone service, seeks to assume for itself the role currently performed by U.S. District Judge Harold Greene. They want to keep on doing things the way they are but they are going to replace Judge Greene with themselves, unnecessarily so. It does so without defining by whom or under what standards its actions should be reviewed. Typically, as a prosecutorial law enforcement agency, actions by the Department of Justice have largely been free of judicial review. In this case, the Department also seeks a decisionmaking role. As a decisionmaker, would the Antitrust Division's determinations be subject to the procedural protections and administrative due process safeguards of the Administrative Procedure Act? What does this do to the Department's ability to function as a prosecutorial agency? Should one agency be both prosecutor and tribunal? Congress should reject the idea of giving the Justice Department a decisionmaking role in reviewing Bell Co. applications to enter the long distance telephone business. It is bad policy, bad procedure, and bad precedent. doj is the problem, not the entry standard for the rboc's The Sherman and Clayton Acts give the Justice Department ample authority to assure the RBOC's comply with the antitrust laws as they enter the long-distance business. I think those two acts, the Sherman and Clayton standards, have come to be known as very good standards. They are under the Justice Department's legitimate role. The Justice Department has never had a decisionmaking role in connection with regulated industries, or any other industry. The decisionmaking role should reside in the FCC: the agency with the regulatory expertise. The issue centers around the way the Justice Department administers its current responsibility under the MFJ and the length of time the Department takes to reach its decisions, not what, if any, standard should be applied to RBOC entry into the long distance business. The Department has consistently interpreted section VIII C of the MFJ to mean there must be actual and demonstrable competition, when in fact the section only requires that the entity entering a market not have the ``substantial possibility that it could use its monopoly power to impede competition.'' The Justice Department has been unable to loosen its grip on the reins of regulation, nor handle issues in a timely fashion. In 1984 the average age of pending waivers was two months. In 1993, the average age of pending waivers was 3 years. The Department of Justice has one duty: to enforce the antitrust laws. It should not be allowed to become the police officer, judge, and jury for the telecommunications industry. So, Mr. President, in summary and in conclusion, let me say to my colleagues that we have worked out a bipartisan bill in the Commerce Committee. All Democrats voted for it and two Republicans voted against, and all the other Republicans voted for it in the committee. It is a carefully crafted bill that would be deregulatory yet would protect the public interest and the taxpayers. In that bill we set the standard. We are trying to get everybody into everybody else's business. We are trying to break up the economic apartheid. We are trying to encourage small business entry. If we can pass this bill, it will be like the gun going off in the Oklahoma land rush because investors and consumers and entrepreneurs will have a road map to take us into the wireless age. This is a transitional bill, as I see it. If we add another layer of regulation on this bill, if we add the Department of Justice doing the same thing the FCC is doing, then we are merely adding another 3 to 5 years to any decisions. The Justice Department just does not move very fast. We would be giving to the Justice Department, which is supposed to interpret the Sherman and Clayton Acts, a regulatory role. I know there are about 200 lawyers over there in Justice who have been carrying out Judge Greene's orders. They are Judge Greene's attorneys. That is because Congress failed to act. I am not criticizing Judge Greene. I am not criticizing those attorneys. But in S. 652 we have set up a system and a process that is very fair. There is the competitive checklist, and the FCC can use the public interest standard. The public interest issue was voted on today in this body. We have tried to work these things out. I know there is a great nervousness between the long distance companies and the regional Bells. But we have reached a balance. These amendments would throw that balance off. But worse, they would disserve the public because the public wants lower cost telephones and lower cost cable rates. They are getting, in this amendment, more regulations, more delays. There would be more delays in developing new devices. The cellular phone was invented in the late fifties. But because of Government regulation, we did not really see much of them until about 1985. Then the cellular phones came onto the market without much regulation. Now the price is coming down, and more and more people are buying them. Still, it took 40 years because of Government regulation. That is what this amendment is about. This amendment is for more Government regulation. We need to be deregulators. We need to be procompetitive. This is a very important amendment. I urge that we vote this amendment down, the underlying amendment, and any second-degree amendment, because this goes to the very heart of the debate in the Senate tonight. It is deregulation. We go on and on with layers of people to approve things going from one agency to another to another to another. We go on and on asking people to wait 3 to 5 years. We have people in the Justice Department who want to oversee the writing of yellow pages in telephone books. They are supposed to be interpreting the Sherman and Clayton antitrust acts. That is what the Justice Department is for. The FCC has another role. I urge when we come to this that we vote it down. It is a very regulatory amendment. I yield the floor. Mr. HOLLINGS addressed the Chair.
Mr. PRESSLER. I am sorry. I have the example, if the Senator will yield, that he asked for earlier.
Mr. PRESSLER. No. We are working on an agreement.
THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPETITION AND DEREGULATION ACT1995-06-08
Mr. PRESSLER
Mr. PRESSLER. I move to lay the managers' amendment aside so our friend from Arizona may offer his amendment.
Mr. PRESSLER. Will my friend yield for a unanimous-consent request?
Mr. PRESSLER. The Senator need not do that.
PROGRAM1995-06-08
Mr. PRESSLER
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, for the information of all Senators, the Senate will resume consideration of the telecommunications bill early tomorrow morning. Amendments are pending to the bill; therefore, Senators should expect rollcall votes during Friday's session of the Senate, possibly as early as 10 a.m.
ORDERS FOR FRIDAY, JUNE 9, 19951995-06-08
Mr. PRESSLER
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it stand in recess until the hour of 9:15 a.m. on Friday, June 9, 1995; that following the prayer, the Journal of proceedings be deemed approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved for their use later in the day, and the Senate then immediately resume consideration of S. 652, the telecommunications bill, with the Thurmond second-degree amendment to the Dorgan amendment pending.
MEASURE INDEFINITELY POSTPONED--H.R. 8301995-06-08
Mr. PRESSLER
Mr. PRESSLER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that Calendar No. 23, H.R. 830, the Paperwork Reduction Act, be indefinitely postponed.