Member of Congress

Bernie Sanders

Role
Current Senator
State
VT
Party
Independent
Leadership
Senate Democratic Outreach Chair

Speeches

SERVICEMEMBERS HOME OWNERSHIP TAX ACT OF 20092009-12-10

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, when Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, they had the opportunity to do something about the health care disaster in America. From 2000 to 2008, some 7 million Americans lost their health insurance. Where were the Republicans? During that same period, health care costs soared in America. Small businesspeople found themselves unable to provide health care to their workers. Where were our Republican friends? I am delighted they are down on the floor every single day criticizing an effort to try to improve the situation. But it might have been a little better if they were here 8 years ago, bringing forth their ideas. But they were not. Having said that, let me suggest that in the midst of this health care crisis, in which 46 million Americans have no health insurance and health care costs are soaring and, as the President indicates, that will double in 8 years if we do nothing, at a time when 45,000 Americans this year will die because they don't get to a doctor when they should, when close to 1 million Americans are going to go bankrupt from medically related bills, we need real health care reform. That is something that I, and I know many other Members in Congress, have been fighting for for years. More than anything, I wish to see us pass strong health care reform. I must express a disagreement with some of my colleagues on the Democratic side, who think we are on the 2-yard line, we are almost there. I don't think so. I think there are a number of problems that remain in this legislation that have to be resolved. I wish to touch on a few of them. One of the parts of this legislation is that, finally, we are going to add some 30 million Americans to health care insurance. That is a good thing. About half of them will be added to an expanded Medicaid--a huge expansion of Medicaid. But here is my concern. Right now, our primary health care system is extremely weak. Everybody knows we don't have enough primary health care doctors. We know that Medicaid, today, is on wobbly legs as it tries to take care of the people who access that program. I am not quite sure how you add 15 million more people to Medicaid if you don't have a primary health care infrastructure to accommodate their needs. In this regard, I have fought very hard for authorization language in the Senate to greatly expand community health centers and the National Health Service Corps, for which we will train and make sure that we have the primary health care doctors, dentists, and nurses we need, desperately need. In the House bill, there is language introduced by Representative Clyburn, supported by the Democratic leadership, that would provide $14 billion over a 5-year period to expand community health centers, enable tens of millions more to access health care, and make sure we have the primary health care doctors and dentists we need. It would be a cruel hoax to tell people they now have health insurance--Medicaid or another program--but not create a situation by which they can get into the doctor's office. I fear that may happen. I am going to fight as hard as I can to make sure we have the primary health care infrastructure we need. That means, in the Senate, adopting the language that currently exists in the House bill for $14 billion over a 5-year period--money which, according to a variety of studies, will pay for itself as we keep people out of the emergency room and keep people from getting sicker than they otherwise should be and ending up in a hospital. This makes a lot of sense. Community health centers have had wide bipartisan support. We have to support the House language. On another issue, I found it interesting that my friend from Kansas, a moment ago, was denouncing the United Kingdom's health care system, denouncing socialized medicine, single payer. Well, I got a little confused by my Republican friends, who have been in Congress, saying: We love Medicare. My word, do we love Medicare. We are very angry that those Democrats are trying to cut back on that. Republicans who, year after year, wanted to privatize Medicare, this week they love it. If they love it so much, why don't they join us in trying to expand Medicare and address some of the problems in Medicare? Let's work together. Last week, we were criticized, but now, I guess, the tune has changed a little. Get your act together, my Republican friends. Either you continue the line you have had for many years about detesting Medicare because it is a single-payer health care program, a government health care program--that is what it is, a single-payer government health care program. You have been on the floor defending it all week long, until a couple days ago. I support Medicare. In fact, what I believe and am fighting for is a Medicare-for-all, single-payer program because, at the end of the day, I disagree with many on this side of the aisle. I think, at the end of the day, the only way you are going to provide comprehensive universal health care to all Americans, in a cost-effective manner, is through a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system, which ends the hundreds of billions of dollars of bureaucracy and waste engendered by the private insurance companies. One of my concerns, as we seem to be hurtling down the finish line, is I don't know who is going to be able to offer amendments. I have an amendment that speaks to what millions of Americans want, including the Physicians for a National Health Program--17,000 doctors, mostly primary health care doctors but not exclusively. They want to see this country have a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. I understand I am not going to get very many Republicans supporting that amendment--or any Republicans. I also understand I will get few enough Democrats supporting that amendment. In the years to come, we are going to have a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. I want that debate on the floor of the Senate. I have offered an amendment and I want to have that debated. I don't need 20 hours or 5 days. I would love to discuss that issue with my Republican friends. Democrats, I think it is an amendment that has a right to be offered and it should be. I understand that will not pass. I will tell you what could pass and what could have Republican support, it is the provision I have been working on that at least says that in our Federalist system, where each State learns from other States, at least give States the option. If the Governor or the legislature wants to go forward with a single-payer model; maybe it works, maybe it doesn't work. I have the feeling if one State--whether it is Vermont, California, Pennsylvania, States that have strong single-payer movements, a lot of support for that concept--if one State does it well, then other States will be saying we want the same thing. It is a cost-effective way to provide comprehensive health care to all our people. I want to touch on another issue, where I think my colleagues in the Senate are wrong and my former colleagues in the House are right. This is an issue the occupant of the chair has worked on with me. We held a press conference this morning. It is to understand this legislation is going to cost between $800 billion and $1 trillion. How do you get the money? Well, the Senate bill contains a tax on health insurance benefits. I think that is wrong. I think that is regressive. It is called a tax on Cadillac plans. Given the soaring cost of health care in America today, what may be a Cadillac plan today will be a junk car plan 5 years from now. Millions of Americans are going to be forced to pay taxes on their health care benefits or else their employer will cut back on those benefits, and they are going to have to pay out of their own pockets. That is wrong. It is a regressive and unfortunate and unfair way to raise the revenue we need. Our friends in the House did the right thing. They said that millionaires should be asked to pay a little bit more in taxes to make sure we expand health care coverage in this country. I support what our friends in the Senate and the House did, and I disagree with what is in the Senate bill. There will be a poll coming out this afternoon in which 70 percent of the American people, as I understand it, disagree with the tax on health care benefits. They understand that is a tax on the middle class. Let's be clear. We are in a terrible recession now. Working families are struggling. It is wrong for us to propose a tax on health care benefits, which in a few years will be impacting millions of middle- class workers. We should follow what the House has done and say to people at the top--millionaires who have received huge tax breaks under President Bush--that they have to pay a little bit more in taxes so we can provide health care to all our people. There is a lot in the bill in the Senate that makes a lot of sense to me. I congratulate Senator Dodd and Senator Baucus and all those people and their staffs who have worked so very hard on this bill. We have 31 million more people who will get insurance. There is insurance reform dealing with preexisting conditions. We made progress in disease prevention. There are a lot of good things in it. I want to be very clear: I do not think we are at the 2-yard line. I think a lot of work has to be done to improve this bill. We need to, as I mentioned a moment ago, make major improvements in primary health care. We need to change how we fund many parts of the expansion of insurance and do away with the tax on health care benefits. We have to give States the option, the flexibility to go forward with a single- payer system if that is what they want to do. Also, I hope very much that this afternoon we will vote and adopt the reimportation prescription drug legislation championed by Senator Dorgan. It is an absurdity in this country that we remain the country that pays by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. When I was in the House, I was the first Member of Congress, as I understand it, to take Americans over the Canadian border. Back then--10, 15 years ago--women were able to purchase the breast cancer drug Tamoxifen for one-tenth the price they were forced to pay in the United States. I know the drug companies are very powerful. I know they have a lot of influence in this institution. But I hope we can do the right thing and provide affordable medicine to all Americans through reimportation. And I hope we can adopt that amendment. I did want to say I have some very serious concerns about this legislation, and I hope they will be addressed in the coming days and weeks. I very much want to be able to vote for this bill, but I am not there now, not by any means. I yield the floor.

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SERVICE MEMBERS HOME OWNERSHIP TAX ACT OF 20092009-12-09

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, I thank the chairman for yielding. Before I get into the subject I wish to talk about, which is prescription drug reimportation and the absolute necessity of lowering the cost of prescription drugs in this country, I wish to say a word in general. I find it interesting that my Republican friends are spending a whole lot of time down here on the floor attacking the health care legislation. I suppose it is at least a positive thing that they are beginning to talk about health care. They ran the government from 2000 to 2006. They had the President, they had the House and the Senate. At that time, health care premiums soared. Millions of Americans lost their health insurance. Where were they? Where were they in the beginning to come up with ideas to control health care costs and provide health care to more Americans? They weren't there. Now, having said that, let me also say I have problems with the bill that is currently on the Senate floor. Clearly, it does a lot of things that are good, but there are weaknesses in this bill in terms of cost containment that we have to address. When some of my friends talk about expanding Medicaid and the problems associated with that, they make a good point. We need to significantly expand our primary health care capabilities, which means more community health centers, which means more primary health care physicians. If we are not able to do that while we add 15 million more people to Medicaid, frankly, I am not sure how we are going to deal with the medical needs of those people. So I think one of the imperatives that has to happen as we proceed on this bill is we have to support the language in the House, which substantially increases funding for community health centers and for the National Health Service Corps, so that we give a primary health care infrastructure--clinics and doctors--to begin to serve the millions more Americans who are going to be coming into the health care system. That is one issue. The other issue I wanted to focus on today--and I am here because Senator Dorgan, who is the sponsor of this legislation, is unable to be on the floor of the Senate at this time--deals with prescription drug reimportation. This is an issue I have worked on for many years. When I was Vermont's Representative in the U.S. House, I believe I was the first Member of Congress to take American citizens over the Canadian border--in this case to Montreal--in order to purchase affordable prescription drugs. I will never forget--never forget--the bus trip we took over from St. Albans, VT, to Montreal, Canada. On that bus there were a number of lower income women who were struggling with breast cancer. Many of them were using the widely used breast cancer drug called Tamoxifen. We got off the bus in Montreal, and we walked into the drugstore--and that had all been prearranged--and in there they purchased Tamoxifen. At that point in time--and I am thinking it was about 10 years ago, a while back--they paid, in American dollars, one-tenth of the price for Tamoxifen in Montreal, Canada, that they were paying in the United States of America--one-tenth of the price for lower income women who were struggling for their lives. So when you talk about morality, I want some of my friends to explain why it is that the American people are forced to pay by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs? Talk to physicians in Vermont. There is a doctor I know in northern Vermont, and when she writes a prescription, one-third of her patients cannot afford to fill the prescription. So what is the sense of an examination, a diagnosis, and writing a script when your patient can't even fill that script? The high cost of prescription drugs in this country is one of the major health care crises we face. It is an issue we have to deal with, and we simply have to ask ourselves why it is that the same exact medicine in this country costs substantially more than it does in Canada, in Australia, or all over Europe. There has been a lot of concern in this country about the lack of bipartisanship. Well, I have to say that on this issue there is bipartisanship. That was true when I was in the House, and that is true in the Senate. Let me just read to you the cosponsors of this legislation-- Democrats, Republicans, Independents. The bill is introduced by Senator Dorgan, and the cosponsors are Senator Begich, Senator Boxer, Senator Casey, Senator Conrad, Senator Feingold, Senator Inouye, Senator Klobuchar, Senator Leahy, Senator Lincoln, Senator McCaskill, Senator Sanders, Senator Snowe, Senator Stabenow, Senator Thune, Senator Bingaman, Senator Brown, Senator Collins, Senator Durbin, Senator Grassley, Senator Johnson, Senator Kerry, Senator Kohl, Senator Levin, Senator McCain, Senator Nelson, Senator Shaheen, Senator Specter, Senator Tester. So there is widespread bipartisan support for legislation which says: Let's end the absurdity of the American people having to pay substantially more for the same exact medicine that is sold in other countries around the world. Let's take a look at some of these charts. To begin with, we all understand when you deal with the drug companies and the pharmaceutical industry you are dealing with some of the most powerful lobbyists and forces right here in Washington, DC. These people spend huge amounts of money on campaign contributions, huge amounts of money in lobbying. Just recently, in order to make sure they got in under the wire, in case there was some real reform passed in Washington, they substantially raised their prices for particular drugs just in the year 2009, and here is the chart reflecting that: Enbrel, a 12-percent increase; Singulair, 12 percent; Plavix, 8 percent, Nexium, 7 percent; Lipitor, 5 percent; Boniva, 18 percent. One of the reasons health care costs are soaring in America--and one of the reasons many seniors are having such a difficult time with health care costs--is precisely the rapid rise of prescription drugs. What I want to talk about now, through this chart, is something that is inexplicable to the average American. This is Lipitor, which is a widely used drug, and here is the cost of Lipitor. The same amount in Canada costs $33; in France, $53; Germany, $48; the Netherlands, $63; in Spain, $32; the United Kingdom, $40; and in the USA, $125, or four times as much as it costs in Canada. Now, you explain that to me. The same exact medicine made in the same exact factory, the same exact bottle. That is why, by the way, in the State of Vermont, and all across the northern tier, every day people are going over the Canadian border or using the Internet to buy those drugs. So what we are saying in this legislation is let's end this absurdity. We are living in a global economy. I have a lot of problems with the global economy in many ways, but if, when we go Christmas shopping, the only products we can find are made in China--because we don't do too much manufacturing in America--and if when we eat lunch we get lettuce and tomatoes from all over the world, what people are asking is, why is it we can't bring into this country FDA-safety-approved medicine? We can bring lettuce in from the backwoods of Mexico, and that is OK. But somehow, when we have a handful of major pharmaceutical companies, presumably it is just too difficult to be able to bring them safely into the United States. Nobody believes that for one moment. Let's take a look at another chart. Plavix, same story: Canada, $85; France, $77; Germany, $85; the Netherlands, $77; Spain, $58; the U.K. $59; and in the USA, $133. Somebody explain this to me. I really would appreciate it. Nexium: Canada, $65; Germany, $37; Spain, $36; the UK, $41; and the United States of America, $424. That is six times more than in the United Kingdom. People wonder why Americans are running over the Canadian border or they are on the Internet trying to get this medicine. Why is it that the drug companies charge $424 here and $41 in the UK? Well, the reason they are charging more here is because they can charge more. If you walk into your drugstore tomorrow, you can find the prices that you will pay are double, triple because we are the only country in the world that does not have, in one way or another, some kind of regulation on prices. All these other countries have national health care programs. That is another reason their drug prices are lower. We don't, of course. But at the very least, what reimportation is all about is, we are saying, in a global economy, when all kinds of products are brought in from all over the world and we let the consumer buy them every day, why not let the pharmacist, let the prescription drug distributor be able to take advantage of the global economy? I am not, I must confess, a great supporter of unfettered free trade. I think that has, in many ways, been a disaster for American workers. But to the degree that it is here, to the degree businesspeople can run to China and pay workers there 50 cents an hour or so, that is the global economy. Well, here is the global economy: Canada, $65; the UK, $41; and the USA, $424. Why can't prescription drug distributors purchase their products in the UK, bring them back into America, so we can substantially lower the cost of health care and prescription drugs for all Americans? Some of my friends in the pharmaceutical industry say: It is impossible to bring medicine in from abroad. It can't be done safely. Well, the Washington Post says: 40 percent of active ingredients in U.S. prescription drugs currently come from India and China. I guess that is OK for the pharmaceutical industry, when it adds to their profits, but we can't do that to lower the cost to the consumer. The Wall Street Journal, February 21, 2008, says: More than half the world's Heparin, the main ingredient in the widely used anti-clotting medicine, gets its start in China's poorly regulated supply chain. Well, I guess that is OK too. So here is where we are. One of the many health care crises we face in this country is the high cost of prescription drugs. I think there is a lot that we have to do. Whether the Congress is capable of standing up to the drug companies and all their money and all of their lobbyists remains to be seen. But this is, quite frankly, a no-brainer. For all my colleagues here who believe in unfettered free trade, please do not be total hypocrites. If you believe in unfettered free trade--which I happen not to--if you believe it is OK for American companies to shut down and run to China, if you think it is OK for people to buy any product anywhere in the world, tell me why we can do that for everything except for prescription drugs? There is no rational explanation. This is legislation which has been around for years. The drug companies have fought it successfully for years. We now have widespread tripartisan support in the Senate and a lot of support, I know, in the House. Let's finally stand up for the average American. Let's substantially lower the cost of prescription drugs. Let's pass prescription drug reimportation. With that, Mr. President, I yield the floor, and I suggest the absence of a quorum.

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SERVICE MEMBERS HOME OWNERSHIP TAX ACT OF 2009--Resumed2009-12-08

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, let me begin by thanking Senator Casey for his consistent efforts in fighting to make sure that every American has good-quality, cost-effective health care. He has been a leader and I congratulate him. Mr. President, I wish to touch on some of the health care issues that are out there and tell you what I think is positive in the bill we are dealing with in the Senate and tell you what I think is not so positive. To begin with, as Senator Casey has aptly described, we have a system which, in many ways, is disintegrating. It is an international embarrassment that in the United States of America, we remain the only Nation in the industrialized world that does not guarantee health care to all its people as a right. The result of that is, some 46 million Americans today have no health insurance. Even more are underinsured, with large copayments and deductibles. We have some 60 million Americans today who, because of our very poor primary health care outreach network, do not have access to a doctor on a regular basis. The result of that is, as incredible as it may sound, according to a recent study at Harvard University, some 45,000 people die every single year because they do not get to a doctor when they should. As a result, by the time they walk into a doctor's office, their illness may be terminal. In addition to that, God only knows how many people end up in a hospital, at great expense to the system, because they did not get care when they should have. Meanwhile, as Senator Casey indicated, bankruptcy is an enormous problem because of our health care system. Close to 1 million Americans this year will be going bankrupt because of medically related bills. Furthermore, when we talk about economic growth in America, all of us understand that small businesses, medium-sized businesses are plowing an enormous amount of money into health care for their workers rather than reinvesting that money and expanding their operations and creating the kind of jobs we need as a nation in the midst of our very deep recession. We have a major problem. At the end of the day, despite so many people uninsured, underinsured, so many people dying because they do not get health care when they need it, so many people going bankrupt, we end up spending almost twice as much per capita on health care as any other nation. It is clear to me and I think it is clear to the vast majority of the American people that we need real health care reform. What real health care reform must be about is at least two things. No. 1, providing coverage to all Americans as a right of citizenship and, No. 2, doing that in the most cost-effective way we possibly can. To my mind, quite frankly, there is only one way that I know of that we can provide universal, cost-effective, and comprehensive health care for all our people, and that is a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. Very briefly, the reason for that is we are wasting about $400 billion every single year on administrative costs, on profiteering, on advertising, on billing--all in the name of profits for the private insurance companies that have thousands and thousands of separate plans out there, creating an enormously complicated and burdensome system. With each one of their thousands of plans, if you are young and do not get sick and are healthy, they have a plan for you. If you are older and you get sick, they have another plan for you. There are 1,300 private insurance companies with thousands and thousands of plans, and to administer all of this costs hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. That is money not going into doctors--we have a huge crisis in primary health care physicians--not money going into dentists. Many areas, including Vermont, have a serious dental access problem. That is money not going to nurses. We have a nursing shortage. This is money going into bureaucracy, profiteering, and salaries for the CEOs of insurance companies. It is going into inflated prices for prescription drugs in this country. As a nation, we pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. To my mind, as a nation, what we have to finally deal with is that so long as we have thousands of separate plans, each designed to make as much money as possible, we are not going to get a handle on the cost of health care in America. In the bill we are now talking about in the Senate, we have to be clear that the projections, according to the CBO, are that, everything being equal, over a 10-year period, the cost of health care for most Americans is going to continue to soar. That is the reality. This is bad not only for individuals, not only for businesses, this is bad for our international competitive capabilities because we are starting off from the position that today we spend much more than any other country. Guess what? While this bill does a number of very good things, it is not strong on cost containment. If we are going to try to improve cost containment--and I wonder how much we can do within the context of this particular approach to health care without being a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system--at the very least, we need a strong public option. We need that for two reasons. First of all, there is widespread mistrust of private health insurance companies for all the right reasons. Most Americans understand that the function of a private health insurance company is not to provide health care; the function is to make as much money as possible. People do not trust private health insurance companies, and they are right in terms of their perceptions. People are entitled to a choice. If you want to stay with your private health insurance company, great, you can do it. But as many people as possible in this country should be able to say: You know what, I am not comfortable with a private insurance company. I would rather have a Medicare-type plan. Poll after poll suggests that the American people want that public option. That is point No. 1, freedom of choice. People should have that choice. If they do not want it, that is fine. Point No. 2 may be even more important, if we are going to get a handle on exploding health care costs, somebody is going to have to rein in the private insurance companies whose only function in life is to make as much money as they possibly can. We need a nonprofit, government-run public plan to do that. If we do not have that in this bill, I am not sure how we are going to get any handle on cost containment. I will fight to make sure we have as strong a public option as we possibly can. As I have said publicly many times, my vote for this legislation is not at all certain. I have a lot of problems with this bill. We have to have at least, among other things, a strong public option. Let me tell my colleagues something else I think we have to address in this bill. As I mentioned a moment ago, we have a disaster in terms of primary health care in America. Some 60 million Americans are finding it difficult to get to a doctor on a regular basis, and that is dumb in terms of the health and well-being of our people. It is also dumb in terms of trying to control health care costs. If somebody does not have a doctor they can go to when they get sick, where do they end up? They end up in the emergency room, and everybody knows the emergency room, by far, is the most expensive form of primary health care. Yet millions of people have no other options. They end up in an emergency room. If they have a bad cold, Medicaid may pay $500 to $600 for their visit to the emergency room. That is totally absurd. Furthermore, if you have a primary health care physician, that person can work with you on disease prevention--helping you get off cigarette smoking or helping you with alcohol, a drug problem, a whole myriad of issues in terms of good prevention, good nutrition. That we have a disaster in primary health care which is driving people to the ER makes no sense at all. As I mentioned the other day, there is a provision in this legislation in the Senate which authorizes a very significant expansion of federally qualified community health centers which, in a nonpartisan way, a bipartisan way is widely supported by, I suspect, almost everybody in the Senate and in the House as well. These community health centers today allow 20 million people to access not only good, quality primary health care but dental care, which is a huge issue all over this country, mental health counseling, a very big issue, and low-cost prescription drugs. The problem is, while the community health centers today do an excellent job, there are not enough of them. So in this legislation, we have greatly expanded community health centers. If we as a Congress are talking about bringing 13, 14, 15 million more people into Medicaid, I am not quite sure how a struggling Medicaid Program is going to accommodate those people, unless we provide the facilities and the medical personnel to treat them. We need this. We need to expand primary health care. Community health centers are the most cost-effective way I know how to do that. There are studies that suggest providing that primary care, keeping people out of the emergency room, keeping them out of the hospital because they have gotten sicker than they should have gotten, we can, in fact, pay for these community health centers over a period of years by simply saving money. In the Senate, we have very good language authorizing an expansion. In the House, they have similar language, except in the House they have a trust fund which actually pays for this. I am going to do my best to make sure we adopt the House language, which pays for, through a trust fund, a substantial increase in community health centers and, in addition, a very significant expansion of the National Health Service Corps, which is a Federal program which provides debt forgiveness and scholarships for medical students who are prepared to serve in medically underserved areas in primary health care. We desperately need more primary health care physicians, nurses, dentists. That is what the National Health Service Corps does. My hope is the Senate will adopt the House provision to greatly expand the National Health Service Corps and the Health Service programs. That is an issue that is very important to me. Let me touch on another issue, which is clearly going to be contentious; that is, at the end of the day, we are going to be spending on health care somewhere around $800 billion to $1 trillion. The American people want to know a couple of things. They want to know: Is this going to raise our national deficit? What CBO tells us is, no, it will not. More money is going to come in than goes out. There will be savings incorporated in the legislation, and that is a good thing. We have a $12 trillion national debt, and we do not want to add to that. But people are also asking how are you going to raise the money? How are you going to pay for this? Where does the $800 billion to $1 trillion come from? Here is where we have a bit of differences of opinion. In the House, I think they have, once again, done the right thing. What the House has done is raise $460 billion, with a surcharge on the top three-tenths of 1 percent of taxpayers. These are the wealthiest people in this country. What the House has said, quite appropriately, is that at a time when the gap between the rich and everybody else is growing wider and at a time when the top 1 percent earn more income than the bottom 50 percent, it is appropriate, especially after all of President Bush's tax breaks, to ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share of taxes so we can provide health insurance to tens of millions of Americans. That, in my view, is exactly the right way to go. Unfortunately, in the Senate, we have not done that. What we have chosen to do in the Senate is to raise about--I do not know the exact number--but we have chosen to impose an excise tax of 40 percent on so- called Cadillac plans. The problem is, given the substantial increase in health care costs in this country, a Cadillac plan today in 5 or 10 years may be a junk car plan. I believe with a struggling middle class, with people desperately trying to hold onto their standard of living, the last thing the Senate wants to do is impose a tax on millions and millions of working people who have fought hard to get a halfway decent health care plan. Let me very briefly read from a fact sheet that came from the Communications Workers of America. CWA is one of the largest unions in this country. Similar to almost every union, they are strongly opposed to this excise tax on health care benefits. This is what they say. I read right from it. This is a document from the CWA: The U.S. Senate will soon vote on legislation that would tax CWA-negotiated employer health plans. The tax will be passed directly onto working families. To avoid the tax, employers will try to significantly cut benefits for active workers and pre-Medicare retirees. How the House Benefits Tax Works. A 40-percent excise tax would be assessed on the value of health care plans exceeding $23,000 for a family and $8,500 for an individual starting in 2013. (Levels are higher for pre-Medicare retiree plans and high-risk industry plans-- $26,000 and $9,850.) And here is an important point. Because while people may not have to pay this tax in a couple of years, with health care costs soaring, they will have to pay this tax in the reasonably near future. Quoting from the CWA document: These ``thresholds'' would increase at the rate of general inflation, plus 1 percentage point, or 3 percent. This is well below the medical inflation rate (4 percent) and about half the rate (6 percent) at which employer and union plan costs have been increasing. In other words, the cost of health care is rising a lot faster than inflation, which today is almost zero. It may actually be below zero, the point being that in a number of years, so-called Cadillac plans are going to reach the threshold upon which middle-class workers are going to be forced to pay a lot in taxes. Let me go back to the CWA now. They write: Health Benefits Tax Will Hit CWA-- And they are talking about many union workers here. --CWA-negotiated Plans Hard and Result in Deep Cuts. In 40 of 43 states examined over 10 years (2013-2022) the average excise taxes assessed on each worker in CWA's most popular plans will be: $13,300 per active worker in the family plan. That is for a 10-year period, $13,300. $5,800 per active single worker, $13,600 for pre-Medicare retiree in the family plan, and $4,400 for pre-Medicare retiree in the single plan. The bottom line is that the middle class in this country is struggling. We are in the midst of the most severe recession since the Great Depression of the 1930s. People are working longer hours for lower wages. The middle class is on the verge of collapse. The Senate should not be imposing an additional tax on middle-class workers. The House got it right; the Senate got it wrong, and I intend to offer an amendment to take out this tax and replace it with a progressive tax similar to what exists in the House. Let me conclude by simply saying this: I understand that the leadership wants to move this bill forward as quickly as possible. I understand that. But in my view, we have a lot of work in front of us to improve this plan. Among many other things--many other things--and I know other Members have different ideas--at the very least, States in this country--individual States--if they so choose, should be able to develop a single-payer plan for their States. Because at the end of the day, in my view, the only way we are going to provide comprehensive, cost-effective, universal care is through a single payer. I know some people are saying: Well, we are dealing with health care, we are not going to be back for a long time. If this bill were passed tomorrow, trust me, we would be back in a few years, because health care costs are going to continue to soar. Winston Churchill once said: ``The American people always do the right thing when they have no other option.'' And I think that is what we are looking at right now. We are running out of options. What we have put together is an enormously complicated patchwork piece of legislation. It is going to help a lot of people. It involves insurance reform, which is absolutely right. We have a lot of money into disease prevention, which we should have. There are a lot of very good things in this bill. But it is not going to solve, in my view, the health care crisis. Costs are going to soar. If we don't have the courage as a body to take on the insurance companies, to take on the drug companies, at the very least let us give States--whether it is Vermont, Pennsylvania, California, or other States--the right to become a model for America; to provide health care to all people in a cost- effective way through a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. We have to do that. The other thing we have to do, in my view, is to get rid of this tax on the middle class by taxing health care benefits. Mr. President, you will recall that a year ago we were in a highly controversial and difficult Presidential campaign. One candidate, who happened to have lost that election--a Member of the Senate, Senator McCain--came up with a plan that was exactly--or very close to it--to what we are talking about today. Then-Senator Barack Obama, who won that election, came up with a different plan, because he said that wasn't a good idea. Well, how do you think millions of American workers are going to feel when they say: Wait a second, the guy who won told me he was against taxing health care plans, and now we are adopting the program of the guy who lost. How do the American people who voted in that election have faith in their elected officials if we do exactly what we said we would not do? So I believe we have to move toward a progressive way of funding this health care plan. As I stand here right now, this plan has a lot of good stuff in it, but there are a lot of problems in it. I very much look forward to the opportunity to be able to offer a number of amendments to strengthen this bill. It is very important to the people of Vermont and to people all over this country that not only I but the Presiding Officer and other Members have a right to offer amendments. Because if this bill gets whizzed right through, and is not as strong as it possibly can be, I think we will not have done the job we need to do. Mr. President, with that, I yield the floor.

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, it appears I am going to be closing tonight.

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MORNING BUSINESS2009-12-08

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to a period of morning business, with Senators permitted to speak for up to 10 minutes each.

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ORDERS FOR WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 9, 20092009-12-08

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it adjourn until 9:30 a.m., Wednesday, December 9; that following the prayer and pledge, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, the morning hour be deemed expired, the time for the two leaders be reserved for their use later in the day, and the Senate resume consideration of H.R. 3590, the health care reform legislation; that following any remarks of the chair and ranking member of the Finance Committee, or their designees, for up to 10 minutes each, the next 2 hours be for debate only, with the time equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their designees, with Senators permitted to speak for up to 10 minutes each; the Republicans controlling the first 30 minutes and the majority controlling the second 30 minutes, with the remaining time equally divided and used in an alternating fashion; further, that no amendments are in order during this time.

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PROGRAM2009-12-08

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, rollcall votes are possible throughout the day tomorrow. Senators will be notified when any votes are scheduled.

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ADJOURNMENT UNTIL 9:30 A.M. TOMORROW2009-12-08

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, if there is no further business to come before the Senate, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate stand adjourned under the previous order.

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SERVICE MEMBERS HOME OWNERSHIP TAX ACT OF 20092009-12-07

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Let me mention to my friend, in the State of Vermont, the poorest region of our State borders on Canada. It is called the Northeast Kingdom, in the northeast part of the State. For 30 years we have had a number of community health centers in that region. Do you know what? Amidst all of the poverty, all of the unemployment, all of the economic problems, we do not have a problem in terms of primary health care in the poorest area of the State of Vermont precisely because of these community health centers, which you indicate address dental care, which we often forget about, mental health counseling, we forget about, low-cost prescription drugs. I look forward to working with the chairman of the HELP Committee and others to make sure we fund the kind of revolution we need in disease prevention, in primary health care, which at the end of the day improves people's health, keeps them out of the emergency room, keeps them out of the hospital, saves us money. Study after study: Saves us money.

Mr. SANDERS. I thank the Senator very much and yield the floor.

Mr. SANDERS. Let me concur. In the State of Vermont we have gone from 2 to 8 with 40 satellites. Over 100,000 people in Vermont are now accessing community health centers for their primary health care. The other point we don't often make about community health centers is they are democratically run, they are run by the communities themselves. My experience is exactly that of the Senator from Iowa. They are community health centers. In rural areas it is not rich or poor. By and large, most of the people, regardless of income, go there. The doctors are there for a long time. The dentists are there. It is, in fact, in the best sense of the word, a community health center open and accessed by all people. People take responsibility for it because it is democratically run. It is a program--one of the bright shining stars of public health in America. I hope to work with the chairman of the HELP Committee to make sure these programs are funded adequately in this bill and that we adopt the language in the House, which goes a long way. I yield the floor.

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, there are at least two major goals we have to achieve in health care reform and that is we have to expand access to everyone in America, and we have to control costs. We focus a lot on expanding insurance but expanding insurance is not expanding access. There are people today in America who have insurance but they do not have access. The fact is, we have 60 million people who do not have access to a physician on a regular basis and many of those people--according to recent studies, 45,000--may die because they do not get to a doctor in a timely manner. By the time they walk into the doctor's office their situation is terminal. We need substantially improved access to health care. When we improve access, we save money because people do not go to the emergency room, they do not end up in the hospital, sicker than they otherwise would have been. We need a revolution in primary health care in America. Unless we do something and do it now, our primary health care system infrastructure is close to collapse. We have an aging primary care workforce which is not being replaced. At a Senate hearing I chaired earlier this year, it was noted that only 2 percent of internal medicine residents were choosing primary care as their specialty. Happily, there are two Federal programs that can both assure access and control costs, and I refer to the Community Health Center Program and the National Health Service Corps. Both are well- established programs that have garnered broad bipartisan support because of their proven cost effectiveness. What a federally qualified community health center is about--and I believe they exist in all States in this country. They have widespread support from Members of the Senate and the House of both political parties. What they are about is saying that anyone in an underserved area can walk into that facility and get health care, either Medicaid, Medicare, private insurance, or a sliding scale--if you don't have enough money, you pay on a sliding scale basis--and low-cost prescription drugs. This is a very successful program that now provides health care to over 20 million Americans and it is a 40-year-old program, again supported widely in the House and the Senate. I am pleased that in the Senate bill, it recognizes the importance of both federally qualified community health centers and the National Health Service Corps. The National Health Service Corps is a long- established Federal program which says to people in medical school: We are prepared to provide debt forgiveness to you--on average, I know in Vermont, people are coming out $150,000 in debt--if you are prepared to work in primary health care in an underserved area. In the Senate bill we recognize the importance of the federally qualified community health centers and the National Health Service Corps. In fact, our bill calls for authorization levels that, if appropriated, would enable the Community Health Centers Program to expand to every underserved area within 5 years, and would result in supporting at least 40,000 more primary care professionals in the next 10 years--doctors, nurses, dentists. But we can and must improve the Senate bill. I favor very strongly the language in the House bill which calls for a dedicated trust fund with mandatory annual spending for community health centers and the National Health Service Corps. In other words, in the Senate we have authorized funding. The House has established a trust fund to actually pay for it. The Senate bill contains authorization levels that would be sufficient to fund a community health center in every underserved area in America and thus provide primary health care to 60 million more people by the year 2015. These are people who do not have to go into the emergency room, they don't have to go into the hospital because they are sicker than they should have been. They are going to get timely, cost-effective health care at a community health center. Therefore, let me be very clear: I favor the language in the House bill which includes community health centers in its Public Health Investment Fund and guarantees mandatory funding for health centers totaling $12 billion over the next 5 years. This is in addition to the $2.2 billion current annual appropriation for community health centers which, it is anticipated, would also continue to be appropriated in each of the next 5 years. While this House funding level will not achieve a community health center in every underserved area, it will take us very far toward that goal, bringing primary care health services to some 40 million citizens living in underserved areas. Also in the House bill there is appropriated money to greatly expand the National Health Service Corps. In the middle of all this discussion on health care, health insurance, let us not forget a few basic points. Sixty million Americans do not have access to a doctor. We need a revolution in primary medical care. We need to make sure we have the physicians, nurses, and dentists who are going to get out in underserved areas. The Senate bill provides authorization. The House bill provides a trust fund for community health centers and for disease prevention in general. My strong hope--and I am going to do everything I can to make sure it happens--is that the Senate adopts the House provisions. If we are serious about providing health care to all Americans, we have to expand community health centers, we have to make sure there are primary health care doctors, dentists, nurses out there. In addition, we need to focus on disease prevention. I know my colleague from Iowa has worked very hard on that. So we have to support the trust fund in that area. I yield to my friend from Iowa.

Mr. SANDERS. I ask unanimous consent for 2 minutes more.

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SERVICE MEMBERS HOME OWNERSHIP TAX ACT OF 20092009-12-03

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. I am going to speak on something other than health care. I thank my friend from Montana for yielding. Confirmation of Federal Reserve Chairman

Mr. SANDERS. Mr. President, what I want to touch upon is my strong belief that Ben Bernanke should not be reappointed for a second term as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. In that regard, I placed a hold on his nomination. Everyone in this country understands we are in the midst of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. We are looking at 17 percent of our people being either unemployed or underemployed. We are looking at average length of unemployment being longer than it has been since World War II. We are looking at a situation where, over the last 8 or 9 years, median household income has declined by over $2,000. We are looking at a situation where, according to USA Today, September 18, 2009: The incomes of the young and middle aged, especially men, have fallen off a cliff since 2000, leaving many age groups poorer than they were even in the 1970's. What we are seeing is a long-term trend resulting in the collapse of the middle class, an increase in poverty, a growing gap between the rich and everybody else. Then, to make a very bad situation worse, as a result of the greed, irresponsibility, and illegal behavior of Wall Street, we are now in a terrible economic decline. The American people voted overwhelmingly last year for a change in our national policies and for a new direction in the economy. After 8 long years of trickle-down economics that benefited the very wealthy at the expense of the middle class and working families, the people of our country demanded a change that would put the interests of ordinary people ahead of the greed of Wall Street and the wealthy few. What the American people did not bargain for was another 4 years for one of the key architects of the Bush economy, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. The Chairman of the Federal Reserve--and the Federal Reserve itself-- has four main responsibilities. I want the American people to determine whether they believe the Fed has, in fact, succeeded in fulfilling these obligations. Here they are, four main responsibilities: No. 1, to conduct monetary policy in a way that leads to maximum employment and stable prices. Maximum employment? When you have 17 percent of your people unemployed or underemployed, I do not think the Fed or all of us, any of us, have succeeded in that area. No. 2, to maintain the safety and soundness of financial institutions. Obviously, that has not been the case either. No. 3, to contain systemic risk in financial markets. No. 4, to protect consumers against deceptive and unfair financial products. Not since the Great Depression has the financial system been as unsafe, unsound, and unstable as it has been during Mr. Bernanke's tenure. More than 120 banks have failed since he has been Chairman, and the list of troubled banks has grown from 50 to over 416. Mr. Bernanke has failed to prevent banks from issuing deceptive and unfair financial products to consumers. Under his leadership, mortgage lenders were allowed to issue predatory loans that they knew consumers would be unable to repay. This risky practice was allowed to continue long after the FBI warned, in 2004, of an epidemic in mortgage fraud. Here is what the bottom line is. The bottom line is that the key responsibility of the Fed is to maintain the safety and soundness of our financial institutions, and they failed. They failed. As a result of the greed and speculation on Wall Street--which the Fed should have been observing, which the Fed should have acted against, which the Fed should have warned the American people and the Congress about--they did nothing and our financial system went over the edge. Then, after not doing their jobs as a watchdog, not fulfilling their obligation to protect the safety and soundness of our financial system, the financial collapse occurred, and what happened? What the Fed did is provide not only--not only did Congress put $700-plus billion into the bailout, the Fed provided several trillion dollars of zero-interest loans to large financial institutions. When I asked Chairman Bernanke which financial institutions received these zero-interest loans, the answer was: I am not going to tell you. Not going to tell you. The reason Congress, against my vote, bailed out Wall Street is they were too big to fail. Large financial institutions were too big to fail. Since the collapse, three out of the four largest financial institutions have become even larger. So the systemic danger for our economy is even greater today than it was before the bailout. The American people want a new Wall Street. They want a Wall Street which begins to respond to the needs of small business, so we can begin to create jobs, not just to Wall Street's outrageous executive compensation. Let me suggest some of the things I think a Fed Chairman should be doing, things Mr. Bernanke is not. No. 1, today, bailed out financial institutions are charging consumers 25 or 30 percent interest rates on their credit cards. The Fed has the power to stop that, to put a cap on interest rates. That is what they should be doing. The Fed has the power to demand that bailed-out institutions provide loans at low interest rates to small and medium-sized businesses so we can begin to create the kinds of jobs that are desperately needed in this country. That is not what Mr. Bernanke has done. The Fed has the power now to do what is taking place in the United Kingdom, something that many economists are demanding, and that is to start breaking up these large financial institutions which are too big to fail. In my view, if an institution is too big to fail, it is too big to exist. We have to start breaking them up, not allow them to get even larger. The Fed has chosen not to do that. We need transparency at the Fed. I am the author of a GAO audit of the Fed, which now has 30 cosponsors, which I hope we will pass. But at the very least, if the taxpayers of this country are putting at risk trillions of dollars being lent out to large financial institutions, we have a right to know which institutions are receiving that money and under what terms. Let me conclude by saying this: This country is in the midst of a horrendous economic crisis. Millions of families all over this country are at their wit's end. They are suffering. They are trying to figure out how they are going to keep warm this winter, how they are going to pay their bills. The time is now for a new Fed, for a new direction on Wall Street, for a Wall Street which is helping our productive economy create decent-paying jobs, not a Wall Street based on greed, only for themselves, whose goal in life is to make as much money as possible for their CEOs. We need a new Fed, we need a new Wall Street, and we surely need a new Chairman of the Fed. My hope is that President Obama will give us a new nominee and not Mr. Bernanke. I yield the floor.

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SERVICE MEMBERS HOME OWNERSHIP TAX ACT OF 2009--Continued2009-12-02

Mr. SANDERS

Mr. SANDERS. Because what is true in Vermont is true in Illinois. You have a whole lot of people who do not have access to a dentist, which these Federally Qualified Health Centers now provide, and mental health counseling, and low-cost prescription drugs. So I thank my friend from Illinois. I am sure the Senator and I are going to work together to make sure we, in fact, are successful in keeping people out of the emergency room, keeping them out of the hospital, by enabling them to get the medical care they need when they need it. I look forward to working with my friend on that.

Mr. SANDERS. My friend from Illinois makes the point. And I have visited virtually all of them in the State of Vermont. We have gone from 2 to 8, with 40 satellites. We have over 100,000 people in the State of Vermont who now use these Federally Qualified Health Centers. I know my friend from Illinois is also aware that when you talk about health care, you have to talk about dental care.

Mr. SANDERS. I ask my friend from Illinois, has he talked to physicians who have, on that issue, told him that they have lost patients who walked into their office and they say: Why didn't you come in here 6 months ago or a year ago? And that patient says: I didn't have any money, and I thought maybe the pain in my stomach or my chest would get better. I have had that conversation with physicians in Vermont. I wonder if the Senator has talked to physicians who have said the same thing.

Mr. SANDERS. It might be an interesting amendment, I would say to my friend. There is another area where it is a semigovernment nonprofit, which I know the Senator from Illinois feels very strongly about, and that is the Federally Qualified Community Health Centers begun by Senator Kennedy over 40 years ago, where we now have over 1,200 community health centers all over this country. In fact, I know this is widely supported in a bipartisan or tripartisan way, because the Federally Qualified Community Health Centers provide quality health care and dental care and low-cost prescription drugs and mental health counseling. I might say to my friend from Illinois, one of the provisions in that 2,000-page bill he is holding up is legislation he and I and others have worked hard on, which is to substantially expand the Community Health Center Program into every underserved area in America. We talk about 46 million people being uninsured in this country. We have 60 million people who do not have access to a doctor on a regular basis. If we expand the Community Health Center Program, if we expand to a significant degree the National Health Service Corps so we can help young people become primary health care physicians by paying off their very substantial medical debts, would my friend agree with me that this would be a major step forward in improving primary health care in America?

Mr. SANDERS. I suggest to my friend from Illinois that we could take it a step further. I go to the Capitol physician's office. That is where I go. We pay extra money for it. I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield, but I go there. Do you know who runs the Capitol physician's office, which I suspect the vast majority of the Members of Congress go to and get very fine primary health care? Well, it is that terrible government agency, the U.S. Navy. So maybe some of our friends who are busy denouncing government health care might want to say they do not want to take advantage of that very fine, high quality health care, and that speaks for the whole military as well. While we are at it, maybe you should abolish health care for the U.S. military, which is all government run and, by the way, generally regarded as pretty good quality health care. I would ask my friend his views on that.

Mr. SANDERS. Right.

Mr. SANDERS. Would my friend from Illinois agree, it does not make a whole lot of sense for people who do not have health insurance today to go into an emergency room and run up a huge cost or to get terribly ill because they do not go to a doctor when they should and end up in the hospital? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense, both for the personal health of the individual and saving money for the system, to provide health care to people when they need it?

Mr. SANDERS. I would say to my friend from Illinois that that is an interesting proposal and, in fact, I was almost thinking of offering an amendment at one point. We have a lot of people in this country who stand up and say: Get the government out of health care. Well, I think some of my Republican friends have kind of echoed that message. I do think that the Senator from Illinois is right. We may bring forth an amendment to allow our Republican friends to say: Let's abolish the Veterans' Administration. Because, as you know, that is a government- run program which most veterans in my State and I think around the country are very proud of. They think it is a good program. From what the statistics tell us, it is a very cost-effective way to provide quality health care to all of our veterans. Maybe we should bring forward an amendment to those who say get the government out of health care. If you want to abolish the Veterans' Administration, go for it. And what about TRICARE. Maybe you want to abolish TRICARE. Go for it. Maybe you want to abolish SCHIP which is providing high quality health insurance for millions of kids. Maybe we might work together and bring forth an amendment. Let our Republican friends who say get the government out of health care, let them abolish the Veterans' Administration, Medicare, SCHIP, Medicaid, let them do that. We will see how many votes they might get.

Mr. SANDERS. Right.

Mr. SANDERS. I ask my friend from Illinois, does he think some of our Republican friends feel so threatened and so upset by giving the American people the option to choose a public Medicare-type plan as opposed to a private insurance plan? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, some of our friends are more interested in representing the interests of the big private insurance companies rather than the needs of the American people?

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